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Dr. Rajendra K. Pachauri, Chairperson for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, discusses how both the host country and the secretariat run the COP. He voices concern for the level of ambition at the last few COPs and the perception that little baby steps are great achievements. He fears that the results of these conferences are not enough to warrant the amount of money and resources that go into planning them.

Interviewed by the Dickinson Climate Mosaic on December 7, 2011, COP 17, Durban, South Africa